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So, I've gotten an invite or two for Google+. I'm kind of unsure about this whole thing. I've managed to avoid the FaceBorg for now... is this any different? Is there any reason for me to join?

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1) Not significantly different. In essence the foundation of a version of Facebook done better ( Facebook : google+ :: Visicalc : Lotus123 ), sometimes it is better to be #2.

2) _foundation_. Some significant improvements out of the gate, but it's Rev 0.N Lotsof obvious features missing.

3) At present privacy high and sellout factor very low, but that can't last.

4a) Why join? Good odds it will kill facebook about the way facebook killed myspace. Once it reaches critical mass, it'll be "the place to be".
I took a long break (deactivated) from FB, and recently opened it back up, and lo and behold, lots of the people that have gone missing from LJ are actively and frequently posting there.

4b) Most people I've spoken with on FB and LJ have a clear break (in their mind at least), FB is public persona they can show their boss and Grandma, and it is knowingly, intentionally shallow and superficial - LJ is for thoughtful private thoughts among intimates.

4c) Someone pointed out the "Killer App" on facebook is the event/invite mechanism. That's a feature Google hasn't implemented yet.


Brilliant analysis of both Facebook and Google+

I have not tried Google+ yet - though my wife is enjoying it.

I use Facebook much as starfyrone describes - for the silly petulant one liners and twitter-like status updates... and LiveJournal more for the longer thoughts and in depth stuff. For me, both are public. Though I trust LJ infinitely more than I trust FB/Google - which is to say, not much at all.

Both Google and FaceBook have financial incentives to sell my info; LJ does not. All three are frequently targeted by hackers.

Oh - I think the other "killer app" on Facebook might be photos - but damn if that is not also the gateway drug to all sorts of privacy violations too.

It is one of the easier way to share photos if you don't care about ownership of the images though... I must reluctantly admit... damn them.

From what I've read, photos are absolutely what drove rapid adoption of Facebook. I think (less sure of this) that they continue to be one of the primary drivers of its use, though that's not so true when I check it. (Perhaps once every couple weeks.)

A lot of the above, I just shared the following from someone else:

Here's what I love about Google+ in general and the Google+ Diet in particular:

Instead of saying, "I'm going to write a blog post now," or "I'm going to send an e-mail" or "I think I'll tweet something" you simply say what you have to say, then decide who you're going to say it to.

If you address it to "Public," it's a blog post.

If you address it to "Your Circles" it's a tweet.

If you address it to your "My Customers" Circle it's a business newsletter.

If you address it to a single person, it can be a letter to your mother.


For me, it gives me the easy privacy/filter control of LJ with no length maximum (ala FB/Twitter), along with the ease of posting that people seem to like of FB/twitter.

Good: my brother uses it; integrates with google/gmail which I keep open while at work to communicate with my husband; seems more content-centric; neat tools for filtering for both consumed and posted content; no easy means for random people who knew me when I was someone else (e.g. high school) to find me.

Meh: full of cheerleaders (see above, re: filters); no events (integration with google calendar?); +1 (their version of other sites' "share" feature) does not post a link to your stream, but instead dumps the link into a list of sites you've +led accessible through your profile (still investigating a way to automatically post +1ed sites); low pop (is that a bad thing?).

All in all, I don't think it's anything spectacular, but it *is* easily accessible and integrates really smoothly into things I already use in my day to day, which is why I'll likely continue to use it (and possibly prefer it over facebook eventually). It doesn't seem to have character limits like fb does, which may encourage more actual discussion, but who knows. We'll see. I'm on the fence with a slight g+ lean.

Two benefits over the FaceBorg...

1. NO STUPID GAMES
2. Can look at it at Govt worksite... so far

I like that it's one click between my e-mail and my "networking" (more like netslacking, but hey).

Also, easier to find people you haven't seen in a while but would like to keep up with, even in a superficial way. And most people use their real names or a close approximation thereof, so I don't have to do the "crap, who's tweedledee815!?" thing as often as on LJ.

Google+ (like LJ, unlike FB) lets you post only to certain groups of people, so if you have a link or mini-vent that might not go over well with everyone in your life you have that ability to filter...but it's not as faceted as your ability to do so with FB (still, so far I've gotten fewer "agree with me or just delete this, I don't post my inflammatory BS just so you can go disagreeing with me cuz it hurts my brain" posts)

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